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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Nov 29, 2006 2:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Not so great shows w/hidden gems?

Since I tend to only to check out shows rated 4 stars or higher i'm wondering if anyone can point me to some hidden gems within what might only be a 3-star or less show?

In other words, in my experience, even at some of the worst or sloppily played shows, there was usually at least ONE song that they nailed, and may even be considered a "top 5" version.

If anyone has a song or songs from that kind of show in mind and would be kind enough to guide me there, grate-ly appreciated as always.

GC

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Nov 29, 2006 3:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not so great shows w/hidden gems?

Check out set 2 of 1-12-79. While the rest of the show is fairly average, the Dancin>Drums>NFA>GDTRFB is really sweet. After the band leaves the stage at the end of Dancin, Jerry and Billy stay for an 8 minute Dancin Jam that just wails. The NFA is really powerful and the GDTR is one of my favorites. There are some complaints in the reviews about Bob's slide being too prominent, but listen to Jerry during that jam, he just takes off and wails!!

This post was modified by Purple Gel on 2006-11-29 23:40:47

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Poster: BryanE Date: Nov 29, 2006 4:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not so great shows w/hidden gems?

Not exactly on the same subject, but in The Grateful Dead Movie, Jerry tells the now infamous story about knocking Phil's ass down the stairs following what he thought was a lame show. Phil had a take on it later saying something to the effect of Jerry growling "PLAY, MOTHERFUCKER" at him, then giving him a push. And then some time later, Jerry listened to the tape of the show and found it to be "crackling with energy!" They ended up putting the stuff on an album, although I don't know which one. I'd be curious to find out. Point is, though, that sometimes those gems are definitely hidden, and not necessarily in the way in which you inquire.
One of the first shows I checked out on the stream only section of the archive is Autzen Stadium 6/25/78. It was the second Dead show I ever saw, and my memory of it is that it was a WHOLE LOT more ragged than it sounds here. I thought the guys were completely out of it that day, but according to what you can hear here (hear-hear?), I musta been high.

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Poster: patkelley Date: Nov 29, 2006 5:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not so great shows w/hidden gems?

i think that the shows are the closing of the winterland and the CD is the "Skullfuck" CD a.k.a. Grateful Dead

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Poster: Tommytrippledip Date: Nov 29, 2006 10:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not so great shows w/hidden gems?

GREAT Brokedown Palace encore - 5/8/77

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Poster: Tommytrippledip Date: Nov 29, 2006 10:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not so great shows w/hidden gems?

OOps 5/18/77

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Nov 29, 2006 3:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not so great shows w/hidden gems?

a couple of latter day gigs.

Shoreline 7/94 Eyes>fire. Not only an interesting and supposedly 1 time only combo but nice versions. rest of the show is average at best.

Also check out 12/93 San Diego sports arena. The show overall stinks, especially the second set but a monster feel like a stranger to open and yes, I shit you not, a very good easy answers. Seriously. Not kidding.

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Poster: AshesRising Date: Nov 29, 2006 2:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not so great shows w/hidden gems?

grendelschoice: ...I was going to ask the same question last week after I stumbled across a couple of items; I may have posted two of these, but check this out:

1974-06-30 (Springfield, MA) First set: Playin > UJB > Playin reprise to end the set. Also, definitely check out "Greatest Story" --- at about 1:25 Jerry bends a note that really makes Weir crack up; that one note is worth hearing at least once.

1977-05-28 (Hartford, CT) Estimated > Playin' > Terrapin > NFA > Wharf Rat > Playin reprise (Also worth checking out is Sugaree in first set as recommended by another Forum member.)

1979-01-15 (Springfield, MA) 2nd set opens: Miracle > Shakedown (check it out at least once). Terrapin > Playin' > drums > Playin' reprise > Casey Jones

The two shows at the beginning of 1978 when Jerry doesn't sing due to laryngitis so he makes up with it on his guitar:
(1978-01-07 & 08) - "Jack Straw" (the second night version I think) is exceptional, but there are several other tunes on both nights that are priceless as well.

I hope these are examples of what you are looking for, but others here are much more knowledgeable than me. ---AshesRising

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Nov 29, 2006 2:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not so great shows w/hidden gems?

EXACTLY what i'm looking for...

already have checked out and gotten Hartford 5-28-77, altho' i'd say that's a pretty great show overall in its own right...but i'm very excited to check out esp. that 6-30-74 example, and the '79 Miracle-Shakedown.

Much obliged.

I know for example that on several of the Dix Pix i've bought and have thought less than stellar over the years, there's always at least one or two songs that's a total keeper...I feel that way about the DP #28 (2/26 and 28 of '73) that seems fairly tepid to me, but does contain my all-time favorite ROW JIMMY in the salt lake show...) i play that sucker over and over again while ignoring most of the rest...Thanks again.

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Poster: AshesRising Date: Nov 29, 2006 3:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not so great shows w/hidden gems?

gc: I agree about the DP 28 - in fact, I was so disappointed with it that I never even got to Row Jimmy. Do you have DP 29 (six discs from May '77)? -- one of the best DP's in both sound quality and tunes (Peggy-O sparkles) - let me know if you don't have it. - Ashes (jerri1031-dp3ATyahooDOTcom)

(..wait till you hear the "Greatest Story" moment - classic! Miracle > Shakedown is only the 2nd and last time they did that combo - first one was a few nights earlier)

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